Show Packs

Show packs are collections of episodes grouped by topic or audience to get you up to speed on the industry. Choose your show pack below to listen to its playlist.

Be sure to also check out the list of Healthcare Industry Acronyms and Terms that will be helpful to new listeners.

Employers 101
If you’re an employer, start here for a 101-level course on what self-insured employers should know.

The Impact of Hospital Prices on Employer Plan Sponsors
We cover the impact of hospital prices have on self-insured employers/plan sponsors and some solutions.

Specialty Pharmacy
This show pack includes episodes covering specialty pharmacies and pharmacists.

Co-pay Cards 101
The Co-pay Cards 101 show pack covers how co-pay cards work, the economics behind these cards, and why they exist.

How Does GoodRx Make Money?
A topic that is popular across audiences, we cover the mystery of how GoodRx and others make money.

How Much Money Can PBMs Make?
The short answer is, a lot. In this show pack, we cover various topics on PBM contracts and drug rebates.

PBMs’ Impact on Pharmacies
The struggle of pharmacies—especially indie pharmacies—due to the impact of PBMs on the industry is covered in this show pack.

Fixing the Loopholes That Jack Up Rx Pricing
This show pack covers how PBMs take advantage of loopholes which cause ever-increasing drug pricing.

The Pharma Industry
We cover the overall pharma industry in this show pack. We’ll be expanding this show pack.

Employers 101

EP436: Let’s Talk About TPA and Health Plan Inertia Instead of Jumbo Employer Inertia, With Elizabeth Mitchell
Relentless Health Value

EP436: Let’s Talk About TPA and Health Plan Inertia Instead of Jumbo Employer Inertia, With Elizabeth Mitchell

EP436: Let’s Talk About TPA and Health Plan Inertia Instead of Jumbo Employer Inertia, With Elizabeth Mitchell
EP436: Let’s Talk About TPA and Health Plan Inertia Instead of Jumbo Employer Inertia, With Elizabeth Mitchell
41:33
EP433: The Mystery of the Weekly Claims Wire: What Are Plan Sponsors Actually Paying For Each Week? With Justin Leader
EP433: The Mystery of the Weekly Claims Wire: What Are Plan Sponsors Actually Paying For Each Week? With Justin Leader
40:00
Encore! EP391: A Case Study for Anyone Trying to Level Up Primary Care That I’m Gonna Call “How Margin Shoves Mission Off the Bus,” With Scott Conard, MD
Encore! EP391: A Case Study for Anyone Trying to Level Up Primary Care That I’m Gonna Call “How Margin Shoves Mission Off the Bus,” With Scott Conard, MD
36:53
EP430: Advice for Digital Health Vendors Selling to Employers, With Barbara Wachsman
EP430: Advice for Digital Health Vendors Selling to Employers, With Barbara Wachsman
38:45
EP429: Following the Dollar Through Pharmacy Acronyms Like WAC, AWP, and NADAC, With Luke Slindee, PharmD
EP429: Following the Dollar Through Pharmacy Acronyms Like WAC, AWP, and NADAC, With Luke Slindee, PharmD
38:20
EP428: Do-It-Now Advice From the J&J and the DOL v BCBS Lawsuits, With Julie Selesnick
EP428: Do-It-Now Advice From the J&J and the DOL v BCBS Lawsuits, With Julie Selesnick
41:52
Encore! EP379: How Much Money, Really, Are Employee Benefit Consultants and/or Brokers Making From Plan Sponsors? With AJ Loiacono
Encore! EP379: How Much Money, Really, Are Employee Benefit Consultants and/or Brokers Making From Plan Sponsors? With AJ Loiacono
35:13
EP422: Some Indie Pharmacy Upshots That Surprised Me—and I Thought I Was Pretty in the Know, With Benjamin Jolley, PharmD
EP422: Some Indie Pharmacy Upshots That Surprised Me—and I Thought I Was Pretty in the Know, With Benjamin Jolley, PharmD
36:43
EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
54:42
EP408: Who’s Suing Who? An Overview of Healthcare Legal Goings-on, With Chris Deacon
EP408: Who’s Suing Who? An Overview of Healthcare Legal Goings-on, With Chris Deacon
39:43

The Impact of Hospital Prices on Employer Plan Sponsors

EP491: Incumbent TPAs and Consultants Getting Called to Jumbo Employer Client HQ to Answer Awkward Questions, With Elizabeth Mitchell
Relentless Health Value

EP491: Incumbent TPAs and Consultants Getting Called to Jumbo Employer Client HQ to Answer Awkward Questions, With Elizabeth Mitchell

EP491: Incumbent TPAs and Consultants Getting Called to Jumbo Employer Client HQ to Answer Awkward Questions, With Elizabeth Mitchell
EP491: Incumbent TPAs and Consultants Getting Called to Jumbo Employer Client HQ to Answer Awkward Questions, With Elizabeth Mitchell
50:00
EP466: What Is Rising Faster, Insurance Premiums or Hospital Prices? With Vivian Ho, PhD
EP466: What Is Rising Faster, Insurance Premiums or Hospital Prices? With Vivian Ho, PhD
36:12
EP452: Fiduciary Duty vs the Healthcare Status Quo, With Cora Opsahl
EP452: Fiduciary Duty vs the Healthcare Status Quo, With Cora Opsahl
39:48
EP415: Some Jumbo Employers Buying Better Healthcare Outcomes While Saving 15% on Total Cost of Care, With Rob Andrews
EP415: Some Jumbo Employers Buying Better Healthcare Outcomes While Saving 15% on Total Cost of Care, With Rob Andrews
43:10

Specialty Pharmacy

Encore! EP337: A Patient-First Specialty Pharmacy, Not a Money-First Specialty Pharmacy, With Olivia Webb
Relentless Health Value

Encore! EP337: A Patient-First Specialty Pharmacy, Not a Money-First Specialty Pharmacy, With Olivia Webb

Encore! EP337: A Patient-First Specialty Pharmacy, Not a Money-First Specialty Pharmacy, With Olivia Webb
Encore! EP337: A Patient-First Specialty Pharmacy, Not a Money-First Specialty Pharmacy, With Olivia Webb
32:48
EP370: How Do Some Health Systems Manage to Charge 6x the Cost of a Specialty Pharmacy Med to Infuse It? With Erik Davis and Autumn Yongchu
EP370: How Do Some Health Systems Manage to Charge 6x the Cost of a Specialty Pharmacy Med to Infuse It? With Erik Davis and Autumn Yongchu
31:43
EP369: What’s Up With Specialty Pharmacy Bagging? With Keith Hartman, RPh
EP369: What’s Up With Specialty Pharmacy Bagging? With Keith Hartman, RPh
33:23

Co-pay Cards 101

EP423: Maximizers and the “the Drugs Aren’t Covered” Schemes Employers Use to Save Money (or Not) on Pharmacy Benefits, With Joey Dizenhouse
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EP423: Maximizers and the “the Drugs Aren’t Covered” Schemes Employers Use to Save Money (or Not) on Pharmacy Benefits, With Joey Dizenhouse

EP423: Maximizers and the “the Drugs Aren’t Covered” Schemes Employers Use to Save Money (or Not) on Pharmacy Benefits, With Joey Dizenhouse
EP423: Maximizers and the “the Drugs Aren’t Covered” Schemes Employers Use to Save Money (or Not) on Pharmacy Benefits, With Joey Dizenhouse
44:17
Encore! EP293: Game Theory Gone Wild: Co-pay Cards, Co-pay Accumulators, and Co-pay Maximizers, With Dea Belazi, PharmD, MPH, President and CEO of AscellaHealth
Encore! EP293: Game Theory Gone Wild: Co-pay Cards, Co-pay Accumulators, and Co-pay Maximizers, With Dea Belazi, PharmD, MPH, President and CEO of AscellaHealth
33:54

How Does GoodRx Make Money?

EP439: Fixing the Generic Drug Pricing Problem, Where Patients Pay More When They Use Their Insurance, With Luke Slindee, PharmD
Relentless Health Value

EP439: Fixing the Generic Drug Pricing Problem, Where Patients Pay More When They Use Their Insurance, With Luke Slindee, PharmD

EP439: Fixing the Generic Drug Pricing Problem, Where Patients Pay More When They Use Their Insurance, With Luke Slindee, PharmD
EP439: Fixing the Generic Drug Pricing Problem, Where Patients Pay More When They Use Their Insurance, With Luke Slindee, PharmD
28:56
EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
54:42
Encore! EP356: PBMs React to GoodRx, Mark Cuban, and Amazon Pharmacy, With Ge Bai, PhD, CPA
Encore! EP356: PBMs React to GoodRx, Mark Cuban, and Amazon Pharmacy, With Ge Bai, PhD, CPA
36:10
AEE13: Have You Ever Wondered How GoodRx Makes Money? With Ge Bai, PhD, CPA
AEE13: Have You Ever Wondered How GoodRx Makes Money? With Ge Bai, PhD, CPA
08:10

How Much Money Can PBMs Make?

EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
Relentless Health Value

EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta

EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
54:42
Encore! EP365: The Real Deal With PBM Contracts and Drug Rebates, With Scott Haas
Encore! EP365: The Real Deal With PBM Contracts and Drug Rebates, With Scott Haas
33:05
EP397: The Minefield That Is a PBM Contract and Also Some Advice for EBCs Who Are Taking Money Under the Table, With Paul Holmes
EP397: The Minefield That Is a PBM Contract and Also Some Advice for EBCs Who Are Taking Money Under the Table, With Paul Holmes
33:43

PBMs’ Impact on Pharmacies

EP422: Some Indie Pharmacy Upshots That Surprised Me—and I Thought I Was Pretty in the Know, With Benjamin Jolley, PharmD
Relentless Health Value

EP422: Some Indie Pharmacy Upshots That Surprised Me—and I Thought I Was Pretty in the Know, With Benjamin Jolley, PharmD

EP422: Some Indie Pharmacy Upshots That Surprised Me—and I Thought I Was Pretty in the Know, With Benjamin Jolley, PharmD
EP422: Some Indie Pharmacy Upshots That Surprised Me—and I Thought I Was Pretty in the Know, With Benjamin Jolley, PharmD
36:43
EP241: Putting the Squeeze on Community Pharmacies, With Vinay Patel, Founder, Self Insured Pharmacy Networks
EP241: Putting the Squeeze on Community Pharmacies, With Vinay Patel, Founder, Self Insured Pharmacy Networks
35:31

Fixing the Loopholes That Jack Up Rx Pricing

EP439: Fixing the Generic Drug Pricing Problem, Where Patients Pay More When They Use Their Insurance, With Luke Slindee, PharmD
Relentless Health Value

EP439: Fixing the Generic Drug Pricing Problem, Where Patients Pay More When They Use Their Insurance, With Luke Slindee, PharmD

EP439: Fixing the Generic Drug Pricing Problem, Where Patients Pay More When They Use Their Insurance, With Luke Slindee, PharmD
EP439: Fixing the Generic Drug Pricing Problem, Where Patients Pay More When They Use Their Insurance, With Luke Slindee, PharmD
28:56
Encore! EP356: PBMs React to GoodRx, Mark Cuban, and Amazon Pharmacy, With Ge Bai, PhD, CPA
Encore! EP356: PBMs React to GoodRx, Mark Cuban, and Amazon Pharmacy, With Ge Bai, PhD, CPA
36:10

The Pharma Industry

EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
Relentless Health Value

EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta

EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
EP418: Mark Cuban With Some Advice for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta
54:42
Encore! EP351: Everybody in the Healthcare Industry Getting Up in Everyone Else’s Business, With Eric Bricker, MD
Encore! EP351: Everybody in the Healthcare Industry Getting Up in Everyone Else’s Business, With Eric Bricker, MD
34:49