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EP496: Plan Sponsors Spend About $1.20 to Buy $1 of Healthcare, and Clinical Organizations Receive 80¢ for Every $1.20 Spent, With Mark Newman
I'm gonna do a little series here called "The Inches Are All Around Us," and in this series, at least to start, all of the inches I'm gonna mention are full-on administrative waste—waste that is particularly egregious because it has nothing to do with patient care. That's why when Shane Cerone said,...
INBW45: Extremely Actionable Themes That We Covered Throughout 2025
Listen On Your Favorite App What I thought could be a good idea to experiment with here at the end of the year or the beginning of the year is to dissect shows from 2025 and distill out the major themes that have come up repeatedly and in different contexts throughout the year. Our big five takeaway...
INBW44: The Relentless Health Value Themes That We Covered Throughout 2025—A Recap, Part 1
Listen On Your Favorite App So, this is new. What I thought could be a good idea to experiment with here is instead of bringing up, I was gonna say, new concepts, then I thought better of it because there's nothing new in this world. But as I reflect on 2025, what occurs to me, there have been certa...
Encore! EP450: When Your Health Plan Is $9 Million in the Hole, Who Are You Going to Call? A CPA. And Tell Them to Bring Their Spreadsheets, With Marilyn Bartlett, CPA, CMA, CFM, CGMA
Listen On Your Favorite App Marilyn Bartlett is the real deal. I saw Marilyn get a lifetime achievement award last year at RosettaFest from Dave Chase, and then I actually had the pleasure of getting up on the stage with her and heard that round of applause. But it takes guts to push for fiscal disc...
EP495: Wait … Flip That—A Crazy Revelation I Had About Trying to Fix U.S. Healthcare, With Mick Connors, MD
Listen On Your Favorite App Relentless Health Value tribe, in this conversation that follows with Dr. Mick Connors, I had a barnstormer of a revelation—one I have never heard anyone talk about before … like, ever. It's a major fundamental bottom line, though, about the U.S. healthcare system—an insi...
EP494: Six Tensions of Pharmaceutical Drug Pricing, With Sarah Emond
Listen On Your Favorite App I was out drinking martinis with Cora Opsahl, director of 32BJ Health Fund , and Cora said, "Look, most plan sponsors' biggest expense is health system spend, hospital spend." I know this is an unexpected start to an episode about pharmaceutical pricing and value featurin...
Bonus Add-on for EP494: Who Is ICER and What Is the Arms Race of Pharmaceutical Pricing That the Status Quo Has Created? With Sarah Emond
Listen On Your Favorite App Not gonna give much of an introduction here because this is a short bonus level set, but I did just wanna call everyone's attention to the "arms race" created by our status quo purchasing and selling of many things, pharmaceuticals included. For a full transcript of this ...
INBW43: Five Baskets of Thank Yous to Hand Out, Along With a Plug for Big Demand Curve Energy
Listen On Your Favorite App This episode is gonna drop on Thanksgiving, but whenever you are listening, I'd like to suggest taking this moment to be grateful. Everybody has someone to be thankful for: colleagues, our mentors, our cheerleaders, our support system, our community, our strategic allianc...
Take Two: EP240: A Direct Contracted and Actually High-Value Network That Elizabeth Mitchell From PBGH Talked About, With Olivia Ross
Listen On Your Favorite App This OG of directly contracted high-value networks or Centers of Excellence networks came up, name dropped and everything in the episode with Elizabeth Mitchell from PBGH , the Purchaser Business Group on Health, from two weeks ago. That was episode 491 . So, welcom...
EP493: Revelations Mainstream CEOs Are Having About the Healthcare Market Right Now—Also, Some Advice, With John Quinn
Listen On Your Favorite App Hello, all you great people trying to figure out how to do right by patients. Welcome to it. I was and am always extremely curious if any of what we talk about over here on Relentless Health Value has, in any way, percolated over to your average employer CEO—the ones who ...